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Sabrina Fernandes of Global Ecosocialist Network with Mike Davis, Rob Wallace & Ian Angus

Mike Davis & Rob Wallace on Covid, Capitalism & Ecology


Rob Wallace and Mike Davis are two of the world’s leading left-wing thinkers and writers on the subject of the pandemic.

Rob Wallace is an evolutionary biologist, a visiting scholar at the Institute for Global Studies at the University of Minnesota, and a sometime deli clerk at a local sandwich shop in St. Paul, Minnesota. Rob is the author of Big Farms Make Big Flu: Dispatches on Infectious Disease, Agribusiness, and the Nature of Science (Monthly Review Books 2020) and Dead Epidemiologists (NYU Press 2020).

Mike Davis is the author of several books including City of Quartz, Buda’s Wagon, Ecology of Fear, Planet of Slums, and (with Jon Wiener) Set the Night on Fire. Mike, a former meat cutter and truck driver, lives in San Diego. Mike’s latest book is The Monster Enters: COVID-19, Avian Flu and the Plagues of Capitalism (OR Books 2020).

This conversation was produced by the newly organized Global Ecosocialist Network (GEN) and cohosted by System Change Not Climate Change.  GEN is an international association of socialists formed in response to the catastrophic ecological crisis rapidly engulfing our world. System Change Not Climate Change has affiliated with GEN because we agree with its core principles and recognize that only an international movement and global mobilization of people power can bring about the system change we need. We encourage activists  to visit GEN’s webpage and consider joining GEN if you agree with GEN’s key principles. Individual membership entails a modest membership fee payable in Euros.

GEN members Sabrina Fernandes from Brazil and Ian Angus from Canada host the conversation.

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On Sept 19, 2023 ahead of the Climate Ambition Summit in New York City, climate activists gathered for a rally and civil disobedience outside Bank of America Tower in Midtown Manhattan as part of the March to End Fossil Fuels wave of actions resulting in multiple arrests. Activists demand Bank of America to “Defund Climate Chaos and Defend Human Rights” Photo: Erik McGregor (CC BY-NC 2.0 Deed)

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